Wednesday, October 13, 2004

Debate # 3

I was planning on live blogging but, changed my mind. I'll give you my notes to each question asked.

will our children and grandchildren ever live in a world as safe and secure as the world in which we grew up?

Okay, this is the most idiotic question asked at any of the debates. Does Schieffer not remember the constant threat of nuclear war over the last 60 years?

Kerry: Bush made it worse, cargo holds aren't x-rayed, container ships aren't inspected. I'll go kill all the terrorists.

Bush: Keep going after the terrorists. I signed Homeland security.

We are talking about protecting ourselves from the unexpected, but the flu season is suddenly upon us. Flu kills thousands of people every year.

Suddenly we find ourselves with a severe shortage of flu vaccine. How did that happen?

Bush: It's Englands fault. If you're young and healthy, don't get a flu shot

Kerry: It's all Bush's fault. It's insurance companies fault.

Why the hell was this even asked?

Senator Kerry, a new question. Let's talk about economic security. You pledged during the last debate that you would not raise taxes on those making less than $200,000 a year. But the price of everything is going up, and we all know it. Health care costs, as you all talking about, is skyrocketing, the cost of the war.

My question is, how can you or any president, whoever is elected next time, keep that pledge without running this country deeper into debt and passing on more of the bills that we're running up to our children?

Kerry: Tax those rich bastards. They make too much money.

Bush: Rhetoric, Rhetoric. He's stupid and doesn't have a viable plan.

You know, there are all kind of statistics out there, but I want to bring it down to an individual.

Mr. President, what do you say to someone in this country who has lost his job to someone overseas who's being paid a fraction of what that job paid here in the United States?

Bush: We're working hard. It's hard work. Less taxes. Go to school.

Kerry: Surplus is gone. Everything costs more. Wages are down.

He has a plan though. Oh, he didn't share it.
You know, many experts say that a president really doesn't have much control over jobs. For example, if someone invents a machine that does the work of five people, that's progress. That's not the president's fault.

So I ask you, is it fair to blame the administration entirely for this loss of jobs?

Kerry: Job hiring credits, manufacturing credits, fair trade.

Bush: You have more money because of tax rductions. Government should stand side by side with citizens, not tell them what to do.

Both of you are opposed to gay marriage. But to understand how you have come to that conclusion, I want to ask you a more basic question. Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?

Bush: I dunno. Everyone should be treated equal. Marriage should be protected.

Kerry: No it isn't a choice, ask Cheney's daughter. Everyone should be treated equal. Protect marriage.

The next question was about the Catholic church saying people shouldn't vote for Kerry because of his stance on abortion and stem cell research. Quite frankly, the Catholic church should stay out of politics.
Health insurance costs have risen over 36 percent over the last four years according to The Washington Post. We're paying more. We're getting less.

I would like to ask you: Who bears responsibility for this? Is it the government? Is it the insurance companies? Is it the lawyers? Is it the doctors? Is it the administration?

Bush:Consumers should be involved in decision making. I like Health saving accounts. Law suits are outta control. Better tech.

Kerry: It's Bush's fault. Get drugs from Canada.
You have, as you have proposed and as the president has commented on tonight, proposed a massive plan to extend health-care coverage to children. You're also talking about the government picking up a big part of the catastrophic bills that people get at the hospital.

And you have said that you can pay for this by rolling back the president's tax cut on the upper 2 percent.

You heard the president say earlier tonight that it's going to cost a whole lot more money than that.

I'd just ask you, where are you going to get the money?

Kerry: We dump a lot of money into medicaid and you don't have to use it if you don't wanna.

Bush: He's full of crap.

We all know that Social Security is running out of money, and it has to be fixed. You have proposed to fix it by letting people put some of the money collected to pay benefits into private savings accounts. But the critics are saying that's going to mean finding $1 trillion over the next 10 years to continue paying benefits as those accounts are being set up.

So where do you get the money? Are you going to have to increase the deficit by that much over 10 years?

Bush: Let people put maoney into private accounts

Kerry:You can't do that, SS will become undefunded.
I'm told that at least 8,000 people cross our borders illegally every day. Some people believe this is a security issue, as you know. Some believe it's an economic issue. Some see it as a human-rights issue.

How do you see it? And what we need to do about it?

Bush: All of the above. More border guards. Temporary work cards.

Kerry: Work cards. Crack down on hiring illegals. Earned legalisation for thos who've been her a long time.

That last one is cute. Yes, let's reward people for breaking the law for years.

There were a few questions that bored me so, I ain't telling you what they said.

Affirmative action: Do you see a need for affirmative action programs, or have we moved far enough along that we no longer need to use race and gender as a factor in school admissions and federal and state contracts and so on?

Are you frigging kidding me? Dumb ass question.

Another question about religion. Who cares?
Senator Kerry, after 9/11 -- and this is a new question for you -- it seemed to me that the country came together as I've never seen it come together since World War II. But some of that seems to have melted away. I think it's fair to say we've become pretty polarized, perhaps because of thet would be your attitude on that?

Kerry:It's all Bush's fault.

Bush: It's all the Democrats fault.

I mean, come on, how else are they going to answer?

Last question was about the women in the candidates lives. What are they going to say? Yeah, I'm married to a bitch.

The questions in this debate were, to be honest, stupid. They were all softballs and you got the standard, blah, blah, blah answers.

Score. Even

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